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Microsoft Probing If DeepSeek-Linked Group Improperly Obtained data the same way OpenAI did. –FTFY
Microsoft shareholders and regulators (if they still exist in the modern US) might do better to investigate Microsoft leaderships relationship with Altman and why they banked the company on bullshit claims about a product the market does not want. Things are going to get really nasty when the finger pointing starts to get serious. Trillions of dollars are being wasted and the only ones who made money were grifters and NVIDIA.
When a writer copies someone else’s work without cites or compensation, it’s called “plagiarism.” But when an AI does it, it’s called “LLM training.”
Unless that AI is not OpenAI, then it’s “plagiarism” still.
When a reader reads someone else’s work that’s called “reading”. But when an AI does it, it’s called “training”.
OMG Competition!
QUICK, they’re a foreign threat! They’re coming right for us!!!
What the fuck is Microsoft getting involved for?! Maybe concentrate on not providing shitty fucking software fuck heads!
They have a large stake in OpenAI, last I checked.
Stealing from thieves isn’t a crime.
Especially not when China turns around and Robin Hoods it back to the world.
Just saying.
Making R1 open source really makes it such a big FU to all the grifters asking for billions for AI in the us. Especially funny because high-flyer is a hedge fund firm themselves. The ai race should only be determined by what you do with it, not protecting how much IP you hoovered up and are now trying to cry about it being copied by others.
China really did one on our oligarchs haha
Beautiful
These parasites expect me to side with them?
What data? they one OpenAI illegally obtained first?!
The irony is overwhelming
An irony curtain.
“You can’t steal that public data! We stole it first!”
And considering that’s exactly what Microsoft did to Apple with point and click, what irony!
They didn’t steal it from Smith & Wesson?
They both stole point and click from Xerox if my memory serves me correctly
Apple did pay Xerox for it if I’m remembering right
Yep, Apple paid with shares (More specifically, the right to buy $1 million dollars worth at the initial share price) which, according to a share calculator I just tried, would be worth nearly $328 million these days, I wonder if Xerox kept them or offloaded them early.
Considering Xerox was utterly uninterested in any of the tech they had, it’s worked out well.
yeah xerox invented the GUI and mouse
Actually, it was invented by Douglas Engelbart in Stanford in the 60s
https://dougengelbart.org/content/view/162/000/
Xerox (re)made it for the PC in the 80s.
Ah TIL! I didn’t know it originated elsewhere.
So while it’s true Apple and Microsoft got the idea from Xerox, Xerox didn’t originate it.
Oh really? **Rabbit hole unlocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcb-XF1RPQ
The relevant part of Pirates of Silicon Valley. After which you should watch the whole thing. It’s fan fiction, but it’s the best explanation of what happened between Apple and Microsoft leading into the 1990s.
Lol its like fucking lavrov from fucking russia screaming “this is against international law” when Europe froze their assets.
Bro… US reaction here is so pathetic…
The behavior is indicative of a bigger issue. They really do think only they are allowed to cheat and steal to win lol
Chinese company:
Truly, you have a dizzling intellect.
Microsoft:
AND IM JUST GETTING STARTED! Where was I?
Chinese company:
Stealing data…
What, you mean like Microsoft, uh, OpenAI did?
Yep, NOW it’s a problem, though! Because it’s someone else doing the same thing, someone who isn’t part of the human centipede starting at Trump’s colon.
What’s the game plan if they did?
Trade restrictions?
China already proved those did fuck all to stop them from developing their own model.
Ducking knew this ai bubble would burst sooner or later, just glad we can finally get on with it now.
I ducking knew it too, I’ve been a long for the ride though. The models still do have some niche applications where they’re actually useful.
This whole thing with OpenAI and Microsoft whinging about fair play is truly laughable though. What clowns.
As a side note, it took a few tries to write ducking, my keyboard kept correcting it to fucking. We’re definitely 2 different people. Lol.
- Name the company involved a military asset
- Forbid US companies from hosting the models
- Pressure foreign companies to not work with them
Somebody better call the WAHMBULANCE!
Surely they’d like some cheese to go with that whine?
You mean they ripped off the copyrighted material that OpenAI ripped off?
we stole it fair and square
