i am also immune to ads lol

What I’ve found is that advertising only works if I already wanted that product. That advertisement doesn’t have to be these huge ad campaigns that they currently do. It could be as simple as showing a still image of a twix bar, and saying “Hey! Go buy a twix!” Yeah, ok.

But if I wasn’t already planning on buying that product? Well that ad time may as well have been some archival footage showing the inside of a 1940s concentration camp in use.

That is to say, both are things that you find offensive to have to be watching, and neither are going to entice you to buy the product.

munches on a twix bar

…what?

Beat me to this.

Advertisers tend to be strongly opposed to measuring advertising effectiveness, because if they’re not effective, then they’re out of a job.

Costco further supports this

i think human psychology is too nebulous and qualitative with way too many factors to definitively “measure” how effective ads are. all they really know is (most of the time) buy ads, revenue goes up.

but there’s a reason your personal data is so coveted by advertisers. if they can parse that you’re an avid hiker from the millions of data points they collect from you (websites visited, geolocation data, other purchases, etc), then they can sell ads for $400 hiking boots specifically for you, that people who never leave their couch and order delivery from hungry howies every day would just ignore

That’s because they are psychological warfare. They don’t need to be liked because the goal isn’t to create a positive association with the product, it’s to brainwash people into thinking they need the product

Head On! Apply directly to the forehead!

Was it a niche company/product?

The people that do spend the time trying to find out what it is for will remember the eNgAgEmEnT from needing to find out what it is and that correlates with future sales. Just like “rewards” programs that are designed to mentally lock someone into the store/product while harvesting their data.

I use adblockers but my parents don’t. Visiting my folks and seeing the ads they get served is just bizarre. They get served ads in Spanish even though there’s nothing about the account, device or geolocation that would indicate the audience is Spanish speaking, they get very long ads for medicines, which…you know how they always list an increasingly long and concerning bunch of side effects? Well the last one I saw ended with a full reading of the drug’s MSDS. They get ads from car dealers half a continent away, campaign ads for a different state’s legislature…Why was there ever a television advertisement even made for General Electric power plant turbines? Who’s watching Zeltik, gets a mid-roll ad for gigawatt generator components and makes any kind of decision based on what they saw?

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My mom (mid 70s) says “Oh I don’t mind the commercials. It gives me a break to go pee.”

And when I say “or you could just get a dvr, and pause for as long as you want, any time you want.”

Her response was “Yeah…but who wants to do all that???”

Um…boomers are weird.

I like to read a catalog when I’m interested in discovering something I may want. An advert on the internet is like a door-to-door salesperson staring through my window.

This is my impression.

My partner doesn’t care about ads at all. I installed newpipe on her phone but she prefers the yt app, with ads.

Usually in these threads someone starts espousing the virtues of “responsible” or “appropriate” ads.

A common argument is that its the most efficient way to pay for online content. I strongly disagree.

Suffice to say, I think ads are so normalised that most people don’t see them as intrusive.

the real problem is that people will complain about it for a minute, then buy it anyway

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I’d prefer a blank screen

Crowdfunding is ideal for every problem on Earth. It’s the peaceful future

Even if they fully render them into the video with absolutely no way for an extension to tell where it is something like Sponsorblock where people manually enter time codes could still get around it.

yeah, not my point though. my point is there’s never been a time for unintrusive, respectful ads.

Neo-Nazis use Lemmy as a platform for their calls to violence?

Pretty sure the fediverse is VERY left-leaning lmao

There’s a big difference between a protocol (what you refer to as Lemmy is actually a protocol called ActivityPub) and a centralized organization (Odyssee). Many / most Lemmy instances will ban Nazi posts, many also defederating from instances which allow them. However, the fact that it’s a protocol means it’s still free speech. This is IMO a very good system to have, and emulates real world free speech dynamics.

Odyssee, however, allowing Nazi stuff is not okay since they are not a protocol. They’re the equivalent of a Lemmy instance. Lots of people are against Hexbear, for example, myself included.

They always say “says something they don’t like” but in reality what they are saying is trans people are pedos and should die, that’s not an opinion, that’s a call for violence dude. Go fuck yourself and fuck your feelings

Some Left Winger sees a Right Winger say something they don’t like. The Left Winger can’t counter it

Many right wing positions are very easy to counter with scientific evidence– climate change, crime rates, public health policy, social programs…

So if you think the “Left Winger” can’t counter it… do you not consider evidence-based arguments to be legitimate?

While I largely agree with your point, as an Odysee user myself I know there is a visible amount of actual Neo-Nazi content there. That said, such channels are not difficult to block on the user end on the platform so you don’t see them after the first time, there’s not so much that it’s a constant annoyance, and there is still plenty of worthwhile content on Odysee to watch, including various YouTubers who mirror their content to the platform. While the Neo-Nazi content is harder to find on Rumble, it’s more politically focused and feels like it’s more meant to be “right-wing YouTube” whereas you can actually find more of a variety of viewpoints on Odysee.

There are a number of examples I can give but the immediately most obvious that springs to mind is Mark Collett, who can be seen in this picture with his ex-girlfriend who has a large visible swastika tattoo.

The British Movement, formerly known as the British National Socialist Movement also have a presence on both sites. One of their primary catch phrases is, “No more brother wars.” which refers to WW2 as a war between different sects of the “Aryan race”. It means that those sects should not be fighting each other but instead non-white people and Jewish people.

As I say, I can point to more but I think those give you the picture. I should probably also add that its a common quippy clap-back for these types to say “so… huh… everyone you disagree with is a Nazi” themselves. The function of this is to muddy the waters and propagandise the questioning of whether or not their ideology is as bad as those who directly oppose them state. It means that they get to spread their ideas by a proxy to onlookers.

Do you have an example of this ?

No? It downloads the videos. Your video player is the “frontend”.

it’s a backend, the front end would be something like jellyfin, obviously the shitpost here being that this was a topic about frontends, if you want my opinion though, all frontends are dead, and backends are where it’s at. You can even integrate yt-dlp as a backend to something like VLC so that it operates as a real frontend.

not technically a fronted. however, if you use it mainly for downloading YT content, it will run into the same problem as many frontends.

Just use the website with Firefox mobile, as blocks.