• Kalcifer
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    06 months ago

    Under capitalism, a properly regulated, and competitive free market is not zero sum.

    • db0OP
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      06 months ago

      Such a thing is impossible. The current system is working exactly as intended

      • Kalcifer
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        06 months ago

        Such a thing is impossible.

        What is your argument to support this statement?

        The current system is working exactly as intended

        If the current system is intended to be capitalist, then it is not working as intended, as was described above.

        • db0OP
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          06 months ago

          What is your argument to support this statement?

          You got it wrong. What’s your empirical evidence to support your statement?

          If the current system is intended to be capitalist, then it is not working as intended, as was described above.

          Not at all. This is capitalism. Actually existing capitalism. I’m de-facto correct.

          • Kalcifer
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            6 months ago

            What is your argument to support this statement?

            You got it wrong. What’s your empirical evidence to support your statement?

            I don’t really understand this. You claimed that it is impossible. Saying something is impossible is different than saying that it hasn’t happened. To claim that something is impossible is a final statement where certain rules can never be satisfied. As such, you certainly can provide an argument for your claim. That being said, my counterargument would be a simple example: Person 1 wants an apple, and Person 2 wants money. Person 1 and Person 2 agree that 1$ is a fair price for an apple. Person 2 gives the apple to Person 1 in exchange for Person 1 giving 1$ to Person 2. Person 1 is happy because they have an apple, which they wanted, and Person 2 is happier because they received money, which they wanted. The net satisfaction is greater than zero — both sides received something that they wanted.

            If the current system is intended to be capitalist, then it is not working as intended, as was described above.

            Not at all. This is capitalism.

            I can use one simple example to counter that: If one can find an example of a monopoly then the market in which that monopoly exists is not capitalist — one example to prove that point is private utilities.

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              6 months ago

              That not how science works. You don’t get to posit a theory without falsification and declare it as true until someone else comes up with a falsification for it and tests it.

              You have no evidence you just have wild theories based on “perfectly spherical cows in a vacuum” .

              And monopolies don’t prove the non existence of Capitalism. They’re it’s natural end result.