VideoLAN @videolan App Stores were a mistake. Currently, we cannot update VLC on Windows Store, and we cannot update VLC on Android Play Store, without reducing security or dropping a lot of users… For now, iOS App Store still allows us to ship for iOS9, but until when?

    • @[email protected]
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      18 months ago

      How about winget or the other commandline package managers? winget does have VLC according to winget-pkgs. This is the kind of “stores” we need, ones that emulate Linux repositories instead of locked down smartphone garbage.

    • TWeaK
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      08 months ago

      On Windows you should be downloading from the website.

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        08 months ago

        Thats not secure. Isn’t the pount of the Windows Store that packages are signed by developers and verified when downloaded?

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            08 months ago

            You can pay a one time fee if $25 to get Microsoft to sign your app on the Microsoft store, or you can pay $400+ per year to buy your own certificate. So Microsoft Store is sadly the cheap way to release apps on Windows. (Without users getting scary warnings from Windows and AV about installing unsigned aoftware)

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                08 months ago

                The certs are sold by certificate authority companies, and Microsoft doesn’t get a share of that, though I’m not sure.

                Yeah, software being signed says nothing about it not being malicious or insecure, but it does prove the author is what it says, and if it is malicious then the responsible party is clearly visible.

                For non-commercial hobby/open-source software the certificate price is prohibitive, so the only 2 options are Microsoft Store or accepting that users will see the scary warnings, and of course complain to the developer about it.

          • @[email protected]
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            08 months ago

            Come on man, every single software developer in existence uses package managers. It should not be complicated to understand the point of the store.

        • TWeaK
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          08 months ago

          Pretty sure they’re signed by Microsoft instead? At least that’s what other app stores do.

          It’s all a game of shifting the point of trust around. Personally, I’d trust most small time developers more than the likes of Microsoft and Google, however I’d trust Fdroid more than unknown developers (but still go direct to the developers I do trust).

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            08 months ago

            The good ones are signed by the devs, otherwise there’s a risk of malicious modifications at upload or on the publishing infrastructure. This is how Maven works. All packages MUST be signed with PGP by the devs.

            Apt isn’t signed by the devs but its signed by the package maintainers, whose job it is to verify the packages that they prepare (devs can’t upload software in Debian)

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          08 months ago

          No, the point of the windows store is that Microsoft gets more control over your machine.

          Code downloaded from websites can still be (and is) signed; when it’s not you get that box where you have to click “Run Anyway”

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        08 months ago

        Or use scoop or something similar. Or better yet don’t use Windows