Your theoretical knowledge is so non existent that the only left wing “theory” you know well enough to quote, is in fact, right wing political theory
So quick to jump on this… Neither Marx nor Lenin said it.
Who said it? The working class created that “meme”, and spread it widely.
So, about your purported “knowledge superiority”… Its not false. Where do you think the firearms the working class will use are going to come from? Capitalists are more than happy to sell them to us.
As I said, the working class did not invent it, it was invented by a right winger and picked up by leftists who want to feel badass. Go ahead and feel badass for being a leftist, you are. But action without theory is a death sentence.
Again, I’m not against armed resistance, don’t try and strawman me. The Deacons of Defense and Justice, the Black Panthers and various other armed movements are worth studying and in part emulating.
We check the source for our info, and the source is the right wing political establishment not the “working class,” who has a right to defend itself – but this ain’t it.
You’re damn right I’m quick to jump on it, and for good reason.
As I said, the working class did not invent it, it was invented by a righg winger and picked up by leftists who want to feel badass.
That’s… Just not true. It might have come from a somewhat similar expression purported to be written by Lenin in a letter… Maybe. It has since been picked up by those on the left, and made into what it is today.
But action without theory is a death sentence.
So it theory and no action. Propaganda of the deed works. Like, in this case, it is serving to show the working class that the time to really act is NOW, not later. The more of these happen, the more people jump in.
Again, I’m not against armed resistance, don’t try and strawman me. The Deacons of Defense and Justice, the Black Panthers and various other armed movements are worth studying and in part emulating.
So, do you think they never shot at people?
We check the source for our info, and the source is the right wing political establishment not the “working class,” who has a right to defend itself – but this ain’t it.
What source do you have for that? Historians completely disagree on your claim…
You’re damn right I’m quick to jump on it, and for good reason.
So, on that note of you feeling some sort of superiority, because you think you know for a fact, the source is a Reich Winger, when the “source” is working class zeitgeist.
Much like how no one person came up with the “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.” line, or “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”
All of those were created via a game of “telephone”, and modified to their current form by the zeitgeist of the working class.
Did you read this? The article says Marx and Lenin never said it, and that it was misattributed to them. In fact the last link in that article corroborates what I’m saying.
On that note, ask Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht about following the working class zeitgeist to occupy Vorwarts. As for feeling superior, being right is superior to being wrong and a little bit of a liar.
“Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.”
—Major George Racey Jordan”
So, someone quoted as misattributing a quote, is a source?
Did you read this? The article says Marx and Lenin never said it, and that it was misattributed to them. In fact the last link in that article corroborates what I’m saying.
Yes, I did. It says the source is unknown. It doesn’t say the source is a Reich Winger.
On that note, ask Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht about following the working class zeitgeist to occupy Vorwarts.
Yes, I know, people have mis-attributed quotes.
However, the original idea: “Capitalists will sell us the rope to hang them with” is in no way false. Its very accurate. And it’s an idea that was distilled down by the working class into the pithy quote here.
So yes, get a grip, and get to work organizing the working class. Stop worrying about people doing propaganda of the deed, if you’re too scared to do it yourself. Punch up and right, never left.
Its breathtaking to be accused of having a superiority complex by someone who, when confronted with their own ignorance, invents a “working class zeitgeist” to gesture towards as if that means jack or shit.
Who said “the last capitalist will sell us the rope we will use to hang him”? Was it Marx? Lenin?
Or was it an American right wing nut case politician giving a speech meant to slander and demonize the left?
Your theoretical knowledge is so non existent that the only left wing “theory” you know well enough to quote, is in fact, right wing political theory
So quick to jump on this… Neither Marx nor Lenin said it.
Who said it? The working class created that “meme”, and spread it widely.
So, about your purported “knowledge superiority”… Its not false. Where do you think the firearms the working class will use are going to come from? Capitalists are more than happy to sell them to us.
As I said, the working class did not invent it, it was invented by a right winger and picked up by leftists who want to feel badass. Go ahead and feel badass for being a leftist, you are. But action without theory is a death sentence.
Again, I’m not against armed resistance, don’t try and strawman me. The Deacons of Defense and Justice, the Black Panthers and various other armed movements are worth studying and in part emulating.
We check the source for our info, and the source is the right wing political establishment not the “working class,” who has a right to defend itself – but this ain’t it.
You’re damn right I’m quick to jump on it, and for good reason.
That’s… Just not true. It might have come from a somewhat similar expression purported to be written by Lenin in a letter… Maybe. It has since been picked up by those on the left, and made into what it is today.
So it theory and no action. Propaganda of the deed works. Like, in this case, it is serving to show the working class that the time to really act is NOW, not later. The more of these happen, the more people jump in.
So, do you think they never shot at people?
What source do you have for that? Historians completely disagree on your claim…
Maybe not so much mate…
Which letter did Lenin say it? Produce the letter and I’ll send you $50
He didn’t say that, exactly… He said something kinda similar in idea.
https://checkyourfact.com/2019/11/29/fact-check-karl-marx-capitalist-hang-sold-rope-quote/
So, on that note of you feeling some sort of superiority, because you think you know for a fact, the source is a Reich Winger, when the “source” is working class zeitgeist.
Much like how no one person came up with the “When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and waving a cross.” line, or “And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”
All of those were created via a game of “telephone”, and modified to their current form by the zeitgeist of the working class.
Did you read this? The article says Marx and Lenin never said it, and that it was misattributed to them. In fact the last link in that article corroborates what I’m saying.
On that note, ask Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht about following the working class zeitgeist to occupy Vorwarts. As for feeling superior, being right is superior to being wrong and a little bit of a liar.
Please get a grip
“Lenin wrote, “When it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will vie with each other for the rope contract.” —Major George Racey Jordan”
So, someone quoted as misattributing a quote, is a source?
Yes, I did. It says the source is unknown. It doesn’t say the source is a Reich Winger.
Yes, I know, people have mis-attributed quotes.
However, the original idea: “Capitalists will sell us the rope to hang them with” is in no way false. Its very accurate. And it’s an idea that was distilled down by the working class into the pithy quote here.
So yes, get a grip, and get to work organizing the working class. Stop worrying about people doing propaganda of the deed, if you’re too scared to do it yourself. Punch up and right, never left.
Its breathtaking to be accused of having a superiority complex by someone who, when confronted with their own ignorance, invents a “working class zeitgeist” to gesture towards as if that means jack or shit.