@[email protected] to [email protected]English • 5 days agoDeepSeek iOS app sends data unencrypted to ByteDance-controlled serversarstechnica.comexternal-linkmessage-square53fedilinkarrow-up1431arrow-down115cross-posted to: privacytechnology
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minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish41•5 days agoYes, so not only are they doing something shady, they’re doing something shady and exposing your data to anyone wanting to snoop it. What’s dumb about criticising the latter part?
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish25•5 days agoThe fact that anyone thinks they have any semblance of privacy when typing into an online AI chatbot is saddening. Of course anything you type into a externally hosted AI is going to be harvested and sold. But sure, in this case you are also potentially exposing your queries to your ISP or someone listening on your local network too.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish24•edit-25 days agoRegardless of the downstream server, you should expect the interim traffic to be encrypted in transit
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish-4•5 days agoSure, it’s not a bad thing and it should be standard practice, but to act like encrypted traffic guarantees privacy is silly.
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish18•edit-25 days agoThe thing is that with the traffic unencrypted it opens the door to all sorts of attacks on that traffic. It’s not just privacy. If you can intercept and interpret you have the ability to replace as well. This is the integrity of your data
minus-square@[email protected]linkfedilinkEnglish8•5 days agoTell me where in this thread are anyone expecting privacy from any online LLM service, or anyone saying encrypted traffic guarantees privacy?
Yes, so not only are they doing something shady, they’re doing something shady and exposing your data to anyone wanting to snoop it. What’s dumb about criticising the latter part?
The fact that anyone thinks they have any semblance of privacy when typing into an online AI chatbot is saddening.
Of course anything you type into a externally hosted AI is going to be harvested and sold.
But sure, in this case you are also potentially exposing your queries to your ISP or someone listening on your local network too.
Regardless of the downstream server, you should expect the interim traffic to be encrypted in transit
Sure, it’s not a bad thing and it should be standard practice, but to act like encrypted traffic guarantees privacy is silly.
The thing is that with the traffic unencrypted it opens the door to all sorts of attacks on that traffic.
It’s not just privacy.
If you can intercept and interpret you have the ability to replace as well.
This is the integrity of your data
Tell me where in this thread are anyone expecting privacy from any online LLM service, or anyone saying encrypted traffic guarantees privacy?
Privacy is not the same as security