• @[email protected]
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      Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google “data driven” leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

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        20 years ago it was the people who worshipped Jack Welch, not realizing (or not caring) that he was running GE into the ground.

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        Yeah. I, like most leaders, spent some time learning all that crap. It was awful and worse than useless.

        Google and Meta’s secrets are recruiting top talent to for top dollars, and then buying every start up that threatens their empire. There’s no secrets to great management to be had there.

        I just threw out my copy of “product engineering at Google”.

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        Every job lately seems to have been infected by Meta/google “data driven” leadership. Its so painful and wasteful sometimes.

        It’s cargo cult mentality. They look at FANGs and see them as success stories, and thus they try to be successful by mimicking visible aspects of FANG’s way of doing things, regardless of having the same context or even making sense.

        I once interviewed for a big name non-FANG web-scale service provider whose recruiter bragged about their 7-round interview process. When I asked why on earth they need 7 rounds of interviews, the recruiter said they optimized the process down from the 12 rounds of interviews they did in the past, and they do it because that’s what FANGs do. Except FANGs do typically 4, with the last being an on-site.

        But they did 7, because FANGs. Disregard “why”.

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      Can confirm. Was quite unhappy in my mechanical engineering job, had an opportunity to develop something nice in python, was told we’d do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

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        was told we’d do it in excel/vba instead, still unhappy.

        I just threw up in my mouth a little. Fifteen years ago, “I’ll stick to Excel” was a (bad, but) defensible position in data automation. Today that’s just insanity.

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          I’m still in a mechanical engineering world so just saying INT and FLOAT has people running away. Excel is the “safe zone” for them, sadly it means that I’ll just be doing the VBA part and oh gawd please get me out of here…

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            Yeah. I get that. Gotta do what you gotta do!

            I’ve made some progress at organizations like that by setting up a private workflow in Python “just to check my work”.

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        Nice. You can put that on your resume so you can get more of those kinds of jobs.
        (/s. I like excel to a point but i really feel your pain too-- and fuck vba)

      • lime!
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        excel has python support now! you may still get away with it

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          It’s cloud based though… Not ideal. I get why they had to do that (they didn’t want to expose people to the Python infra shit show) but it’s still kind of a shame.

          Would be better if they added Typescript support IMO.

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            …like the js infra stuff isn’t it’s own special nightmare?