What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?
No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.
The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.
Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.
But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.
There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.
And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?
Ok, so in your mind, the year is 1982. Israel just invaded Southern Lebanon and is fighting the PLO. Nothing like Israel withdrawing, the entire Lebanese civil war, the '90s, the 2006 war, the events of 2023 has happened. 1982 Hezbollah received some missiles from the future and fired them at some Israelis that haven’t been born yet.
It is forever 1982, and the killing will never end
Do you think the killing is ever going to end if Hezbollah can’t stop unless Israel is dissolved? Don’t you think the world would be better if they stopped attacking eachother?
Peace was never part of the plan for colonial genocide. Have you ever seen the zio genocide map? They’re planning on invading every neighboring state, stealing the land, and continuing with genocide.
Why steal just one state when you can steal the whole region? It’s what god wants his chosen people to do. smh.
How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?
If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?
But if they are active duty and have military comms, it’s just called an “attack”, not a “terror attack”, even if the attackers are otherwise terrorists.
You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don’t need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that “military comms” can’t accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.
Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can’t really get more targeted than that. There’s not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.
So Israel planted explosives in known communication devices, that could easily be tracked or also had pinpoint tracking technology included with the explosive, then deliberately waited until the intended targets could cause collateral damage to unarmed civilians to set them off? And you argue this is different from terrorism in what way?
Hezbollah is a political party as well as a paramilitary group. What if Canada did this to The Oath Keepers or CSPOA or The Proud Boys or another group in the US? They’re all objectively bad people, buy only a few have committed terrorist attacks. Do they all and the people who happen to be around them deserve to die by a foreign government’s actions?
Not the point. They’re a paramilitary terrorist organisation that has been denounced by Canada in the past.
But OK then Mexico or China, they preach the destruction of Mexico and China pretty often. And many of their terror attacks have been against people of Mexican and Asian descent. But again, not the point.
Google it. These groups were attacking Asians (not even Chinese because they don’t know the difference) during COVID because Trump said they were responsible for it and/or made it up to allow the government to inject microchips and/or transgender inducing substances and all the other conspiracies. And these groups are highly anti-immigrant and are constantly attacking people they consider “Mexican” and supported calls by Trump and far-right pundits to bomb Mexico to reduce immigration and cartel crime. But again this is off subject as this is an example of what a similar attack on the a US extremist group by a foreign country would be like.
These are extremist paramilitary groups just like Hezbollah. But they still don’t deserve to have their families killed by bombs put in their products by foreign governments.
Once again, the type of weapons they use is irrelevant to using them as an example of terrorist/political groups being targeted by an indiscriminate terror attack from a foreign government. Your apologist attitude towards them is exactly why they get a free pass to murder and incite others to murder just because some other group uses bigger guns than them to once in a while murder an overall fewer amount of people per member of their own organization. So if you’re incapable of understanding the implications of government sponsored terrorism in a foreign land just because the people use rockets instead of rifles and media pundits as their weapons, I suppose it’s futile to continue.
Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants.
They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?
Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?
Now they just repeated it, I’m sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.
What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?
What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?
For real, read a book every once in awhile.
But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again…
No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.
These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities
Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)
This is the second round of bombings with seemingly benign objects.
They are quite literally bought OTC they are in fact civilian objects, that’s why terrorists use them…
Seriously, a book… once.
These weren’t bought ‘over the counter’, these were bought en masse from the producer and specifically meant for military use
Zios were murdering palestinians at record rates well before they started full genocide 1, 2.
People inside the imperial core are generally completely ignorant and brainwashed about the reality of zionist genocide.
Ah, yes. History started in '22.
You sound like you’re ready to shoot every ‘zio’ they put in front of you, no questions asked
You seem like you forgot how terrifying Hitler was. Now your nation is repeating the same shit
Holy whataboutism Batman.
It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?
The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.
Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.
But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.
There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.
And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?
You are defending the murder of children.
I’m condemning starting a war in which children are going to die
Good, we should all be condemning israel
Are you living in some Bizarroworld where it’s Israel that broke the ceasefire with Hezbollah back in October?
Israel started the fight in 1982. Hezbollah was formed in response.
Ok, so in your mind, the year is 1982. Israel just invaded Southern Lebanon and is fighting the PLO. Nothing like Israel withdrawing, the entire Lebanese civil war, the '90s, the 2006 war, the events of 2023 has happened. 1982 Hezbollah received some missiles from the future and fired them at some Israelis that haven’t been born yet.
It is forever 1982, and the killing will never end
Amazing fucking goalposts there. From “Well who started it??” to “Who cares who started it, that’s so long ago” in literally one comment.
Fuck these nazi ass fucking zionists.
Do you think the killing is ever going to end if Hezbollah can’t stop unless Israel is dissolved? Don’t you think the world would be better if they stopped attacking eachother?
It’s actually been 75+ years of zionist invasions and genocide. Terrorism has always been their tool. Just read any history book…
https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/israel-historian-on-king-david-hotel-bombing-it-wa
Peace was never part of the plan for colonial genocide. Have you ever seen the zio genocide map? They’re planning on invading every neighboring state, stealing the land, and continuing with genocide.
Why steal just one state when you can steal the whole region? It’s what god wants his chosen people to do. smh.
Wow that’s really interesting!
Can you share some more info on Israel’s plan to conquer half the Middle East? This sounds very realistic now that you’ve mentioned it
How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?
If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?
Don’t be a genocide apologist.
Doesn’t really matter if they weren’t targeted if they still ended up dead.
So, like, are Israeli reservists fair game for terror attacks?
If they’re on active duty, they’re legitimate military targets. If they’re on inactive duty, they’re considered civilians.
But if they are active duty and have military comms, it’s just called an “attack”, not a “terror attack”, even if the attackers are otherwise terrorists.
And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?
You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don’t need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that “military comms” can’t accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.
You should take your own advice
Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can’t really get more targeted than that. There’s not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.
Except that these pagers were distributed to more than just hezbollah. AUB (American university of Beirut) medical workers had them too, for example.
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So Israel planted explosives in known communication devices, that could easily be tracked or also had pinpoint tracking technology included with the explosive, then deliberately waited until the intended targets could cause collateral damage to unarmed civilians to set them off? And you argue this is different from terrorism in what way?
According to you. The cowards responsible haven’t admitted anything.
But in reality they killed kids and many other innocent people as is usual for these genocidal terrorists.
Just anyone in an airplane or bus or subway with them
Hezbollah is a political party as well as a paramilitary group. What if Canada did this to The Oath Keepers or CSPOA or The Proud Boys or another group in the US? They’re all objectively bad people, buy only a few have committed terrorist attacks. Do they all and the people who happen to be around them deserve to die by a foreign government’s actions?
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Not the point. They’re a paramilitary terrorist organisation that has been denounced by Canada in the past.
But OK then Mexico or China, they preach the destruction of Mexico and China pretty often. And many of their terror attacks have been against people of Mexican and Asian descent. But again, not the point.
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Google it. These groups were attacking Asians (not even Chinese because they don’t know the difference) during COVID because Trump said they were responsible for it and/or made it up to allow the government to inject microchips and/or transgender inducing substances and all the other conspiracies. And these groups are highly anti-immigrant and are constantly attacking people they consider “Mexican” and supported calls by Trump and far-right pundits to bomb Mexico to reduce immigration and cartel crime. But again this is off subject as this is an example of what a similar attack on the a US extremist group by a foreign country would be like.
These are extremist paramilitary groups just like Hezbollah. But they still don’t deserve to have their families killed by bombs put in their products by foreign governments.
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Once again, the type of weapons they use is irrelevant to using them as an example of terrorist/political groups being targeted by an indiscriminate terror attack from a foreign government. Your apologist attitude towards them is exactly why they get a free pass to murder and incite others to murder just because some other group uses bigger guns than them to once in a while murder an overall fewer amount of people per member of their own organization. So if you’re incapable of understanding the implications of government sponsored terrorism in a foreign land just because the people use rockets instead of rifles and media pundits as their weapons, I suppose it’s futile to continue.
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