wait… when you say “fired” do we mean, chambered, and fired down the barrel, cleared, and then cycled fully, repeating, or do we mean the rounds just popped off in the stack, not in the chamber.
Possible with a semi auto, since the chamber and barrel would transmit heat better to a chambered round then the magazine and all the safety parts don’t really assume cook off. Yeah a round fires, slide racks back and loads next round, next round cooks off, over and over until all rounds are the same temp.
it’s possible, but i’d also assume you would probably not have a round chambered at all, so. Although, depending on the gun, it’s not held back, so you’re probably not going to properly rack and engage another round into the chamber. From what i understand, most small handguns have this problem if you limpwrist them. It’s less common sometimes, but i imagine if it’s not being held at all, this is going to be a pretty common occurrence.
This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.
yeah, that’s probably fair.
And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.
hmm, either case, this guns is im assuming just sitting in there, so if it does fire a round, the force to rack the slide would have to be less than the required force to move the gun around. It’s possible it could do both, due to physics fuckery, but i’ve not exactly tested that one…
I really want to test this, but the idea of inventing a more random version of Russian roulette where the gun is in a box and will shoot at random in a random direction you can not see…
Can I recommend digging a hole to test in. In addition to the typical hide behind a very solid wall not right next to it with some way to remotely pull the trigger. And one live round with the followup round being a dummy would also be a good bet.
But there are so many variables to test here… If it works on a smooth surface then you gotta see if it works on a surface like an oven rack. Would have to check different models as well. We just really need some semiprofessional to test this thoroughly.
I would need to ether dig a whole and also have a bullet stopping roof on it or build a four berm range. I was thinking the better way to test it would be to hand load some rounds with the same powder load and bullet weight (needed to cycle the action) but with a bullet equivalent that is not capable of much penetration (like a fine lead powder).
I think I would start with 2 rounds and the firearm fixed in place (to test if the action will cycle at all). Then go to oven with gun on baking sheet and 2 rounds. Then go oven rack and 2 rounds. And then maybe baking sheet and full mag if it all worked as theorized. I don’t think you need a way to pull the trigger since the firearm while heating is inherently in an unsafe condition, you would have to instead leave the thing to cool for a long time (also to rule out hang fires) and unload the rounds for inspection (not to be reused).
Oh I was definitely just considering testing the firearm being able to cycle the action when sitting loose on a flat surface, lol. I wasn’t anticipating getting a fully functioning oven in the hole, that does complicate the matter considerably.
looking at the images they showed the handle looked messed up, the call also stated an explosion not multiple, suggesting all the ammo went off at once.
I would assume even if a few rounds went off in the barrel once a set temp was reached they would all cook off. The mechanics of this is really interesting.
Commenters are getting this backwards. If there was a round in the chamber it would be the last to go off, not the first. Whereas the rest of the rounds are directly exposed to the heat, the chambered round has a thick metal barrel around it protecting it from that heat.
While the oven is preheating, allow me to postulate that the thermal mass of the barrel, especially in vicinity of the breech, would require far more exposure to heat to reach the temperature required for the powder to spontaneously ignite.
This is why hot gun cook-offs occur, because the barrel has absorbed enough heat that it’s able to ignite the powder through the casing via conduction. As such, as you would expect, after containing a single explosion (i.e. firing a round), the chamber would be warm to the touch while the exterior of the barrel would remain cool. It’s not until the metal is exposed to enough heat internally that the barrel becomes too hot to touch externally.
So that’s my logic here. If it was suddenly 500 degrees outside, I think the safest place to hide a bullet in a gun to keep it from exploding is the chamber.
yeah, that’s a possibility, but maybe if it’s a really slow preheat, or over a long enough time period, it might be possible.
Although you might expect the magazine to also cook off, but if you have a round chambered in the barrel, it might be an inevitability at that point so.
The ‘article’ or accompanying video didn’t specify unfortunately. I guess it is possible the hottest round would be the one chambered and cooks off, engaging the semi auto chambering mechanism loading the next round and repeat.
wait… when you say “fired” do we mean, chambered, and fired down the barrel, cleared, and then cycled fully, repeating, or do we mean the rounds just popped off in the stack, not in the chamber.
Possible with a semi auto, since the chamber and barrel would transmit heat better to a chambered round then the magazine and all the safety parts don’t really assume cook off. Yeah a round fires, slide racks back and loads next round, next round cooks off, over and over until all rounds are the same temp.
Spooky stuff.
it’s possible, but i’d also assume you would probably not have a round chambered at all, so. Although, depending on the gun, it’s not held back, so you’re probably not going to properly rack and engage another round into the chamber. From what i understand, most small handguns have this problem if you limpwrist them. It’s less common sometimes, but i imagine if it’s not being held at all, this is going to be a pretty common occurrence.
This is the same person that put a loaded firearm in the oven we both know there was a round in the chamber.
And no, in my experience very few hand guns have the “limpwrist” issue.
yeah, that’s probably fair.
hmm, either case, this guns is im assuming just sitting in there, so if it does fire a round, the force to rack the slide would have to be less than the required force to move the gun around. It’s possible it could do both, due to physics fuckery, but i’ve not exactly tested that one…
I really want to test this, but the idea of inventing a more random version of Russian roulette where the gun is in a box and will shoot at random in a random direction you can not see…
Damn it, I need to test this.
the gun in the box is both fired and not fired, until we look inside the box BANG OW!
Well that is on you for looking inside the box. Do you know nothing about quantum gun ovens?
tru tru, my bad, i should’ve left the box alone.
Can I recommend digging a hole to test in. In addition to the typical hide behind a very solid wall not right next to it with some way to remotely pull the trigger. And one live round with the followup round being a dummy would also be a good bet.
But there are so many variables to test here… If it works on a smooth surface then you gotta see if it works on a surface like an oven rack. Would have to check different models as well. We just really need some semiprofessional to test this thoroughly.
I would need to ether dig a whole and also have a bullet stopping roof on it or build a four berm range. I was thinking the better way to test it would be to hand load some rounds with the same powder load and bullet weight (needed to cycle the action) but with a bullet equivalent that is not capable of much penetration (like a fine lead powder).
I think I would start with 2 rounds and the firearm fixed in place (to test if the action will cycle at all). Then go to oven with gun on baking sheet and 2 rounds. Then go oven rack and 2 rounds. And then maybe baking sheet and full mag if it all worked as theorized. I don’t think you need a way to pull the trigger since the firearm while heating is inherently in an unsafe condition, you would have to instead leave the thing to cool for a long time (also to rule out hang fires) and unload the rounds for inspection (not to be reused).
Oh I was definitely just considering testing the firearm being able to cycle the action when sitting loose on a flat surface, lol. I wasn’t anticipating getting a fully functioning oven in the hole, that does complicate the matter considerably.
looking at the images they showed the handle looked messed up, the call also stated an explosion not multiple, suggesting all the ammo went off at once.
I would assume even if a few rounds went off in the barrel once a set temp was reached they would all cook off. The mechanics of this is really interesting.
Commenters are getting this backwards. If there was a round in the chamber it would be the last to go off, not the first. Whereas the rest of the rounds are directly exposed to the heat, the chambered round has a thick metal barrel around it protecting it from that heat.
i’d think it probably depends. the barrel itself is quite large and transmits heat pretty well, given that if it didn’t shit would melt.
compared to rounds in the magazine which are more closely exposed, but through plastic, or air, which doesn’t transmit heat quite as effectively.
i guess we should probably put a gun in an oven and see what happens hm?
While the oven is preheating, allow me to postulate that the thermal mass of the barrel, especially in vicinity of the breech, would require far more exposure to heat to reach the temperature required for the powder to spontaneously ignite.
This is why hot gun cook-offs occur, because the barrel has absorbed enough heat that it’s able to ignite the powder through the casing via conduction. As such, as you would expect, after containing a single explosion (i.e. firing a round), the chamber would be warm to the touch while the exterior of the barrel would remain cool. It’s not until the metal is exposed to enough heat internally that the barrel becomes too hot to touch externally.
So that’s my logic here. If it was suddenly 500 degrees outside, I think the safest place to hide a bullet in a gun to keep it from exploding is the chamber.
yeah, that’s a possibility, but maybe if it’s a really slow preheat, or over a long enough time period, it might be possible.
Although you might expect the magazine to also cook off, but if you have a round chambered in the barrel, it might be an inevitability at that point so.
Or if the gun barrel is in direct contact with the element (as in “hid” on the bottom of the stove).
that would be a fun setup, self disabling LMAO
The ‘article’ or accompanying video didn’t specify unfortunately. I guess it is possible the hottest round would be the one chambered and cooks off, engaging the semi auto chambering mechanism loading the next round and repeat.
yeah, i could see one round firing, but more than one and i think it’s probably just cooking off inside the mag lol.
If the gun was plastic, the barrel would definitely be the hottest part of the gun. Would still be true if the gun was a lighter metal, I think. Hmmm