• BombOmOm
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    09 months ago

    The article states they simply need to enter their sex when filling the forms. The headline is not supported by the article.

    • queermunist she/her
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      9 months ago

      Sex is not as useful of an identifier for a government ID as gender.

      If I go missing and they tell people to be on the lookout for a male, I will never be found.

      • BombOmOm
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        09 months ago

        Which is irrelevant to the fact the title is not supported by the info in the article. Transgender people are free to get and renew a driver’s license in Florida. They need to enter their sex on the form, not their gender.

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          9 months ago

          As I understand it transgender people were able to change the sex on the form and now we can’t, so that headline is completely accurate. Yes, that’s not how sex works, but the reason we could do it before is because it made our government IDs useful for identification.

          Now when a cop sees the male identifier on my ID he’s just going to harass me for having a “fake” ID. 🙄

  • Flying Squid
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    09 months ago

    Why do they care so much? Why? I want to ask them to show me on the doll where the trans person hurt them.

    • @[email protected]
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      09 months ago

      Because we’re the enemy. We’re different and bad and we make them uncomfortable so we must be why they’re unhappy and why their lives aren’t what they thought they should be

  • queermunist she/her
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    -29 months ago

    This doesn’t even make sense from an administrative standpoint. The purpose of government identification is identification. If I can’t update my driver’s license to make me easier to identify then the entire purpose of having a gender on the ID card is moot

    • @[email protected]
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      09 months ago

      This is a weak justification, but here is a strawman:

      If a person is involved in a firey buscrash, it is helpful to the coroner to know what biological sex someone was born as to help with identification (different bone structures etc).

      To tear that strawman down again, there is absolutely no reason that the drivers licence couldnt show their gender, and the authority could also track their sex in their system.

      Of course, this is Florida, the answer is obvious, they are doing it to fuck over trans people…

      I understand that not being able to change forms of ID can cause problems for trans people, but if I were trans, I would be terrified to out myself to the state of Florida. I feel for my brothers and sisters affected by this bullshit.

      • queermunist she/her
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        -29 months ago

        That justification gets even weaker when there’s no fire in the lethal crash. They’re not looking at burned skeletons, they’re just looking at corpses.

        Also! Skeletal differences are actually minimal in people who transitioned at a young enough age, so that wouldn’t even be helpful in their case.

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          09 months ago

          Yeah, its a weak justification, but worth lining up, so that it can be knocked back down.

          In this strawman, the point is to be prepared for the worst case, which would be skeletal remains only.

          The skeletal differences being minimal depending on the age of transition is interesting, do you have a source? Id like to know more.

          Of course that gets even muddier for this strawman, because the authority could make up arbitrary rules like “If you transition before X years old, you can change your official gender”. Which ends up essentially the same as the “when is it life” discussion, and we all know how that panned out.

          • queermunist she/her
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            The defining skeletal differences are mostly in the pelvis, which undergoes much of its development in puberty. Intervention in those years should allow for trans teens to develop along affirming physiological lines, rather than being mutilated by a dysphoric puberty.

            Buuuuut I did overstate my case, though; such early treatment is still on the rarer side, so it doesn’t look like there’s definitive answers on how that impacts skeletal development. We can draw conclusions, I think, but the literature is mostly focused on the psychological development rather than looking at physiology.

    • @[email protected]
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      9 months ago

      It gives cops an excuse to arrest (and beat up) trans people on charges of false ID.
      Edit: spelling

      • queermunist she/her
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        -19 months ago

        Oh absolutely, it’s just meant to out us to every cop that sees our ID so they can decide to ruin our day. They won’t actually admit that, though.

      • queermunist she/her
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        -29 months ago

        Well, what is the function of having sex/gender on an ID? It’s to make someone more identifiable, right?

        That means that “verification” only needs to be visual. The purpose is to be able to tell, at a glance, that the ID and the person are a match. That’s why eye color and height are on there too. Precise record keeping is for the court house and hospital records, not a driver’s license.

        By using sex and making that unchangeable it actually makes my ID less useful for identifying me.

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            9 months ago

            Then they’d get harassed by cops for having a suspected fake ID and have to go through the trouble of proving its their actual ID.

            Like I am going to be when we get a law like this.