Marjorie Taylor Greene, a prominent Republican congresswoman and a staunch ally of Trump, suggested a return to “measles parties” for children. She criticized contemporary attitudes towards vaccination, stating, “Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

  • @[email protected]
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    852 days ago

    “Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids.”

    It’s pretty normal to demonize parents who abuse children.

  • Riskable
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    1023 days ago

    “I didn’t vaccinate my kids and the one that lived turned out fine!”

    • @[email protected]
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      82 days ago

      …is that an actual quote from her? The world is getting so stupid that I genuinely could see this being legit from her.

      I could also see it being a line on the simpsons, if the simpsons still had good writters.

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    472 days ago

    She thinks the measles are like chicken pox, pretty much harmless to young ones. My parents tried to get me sick in the 70s, that’s just how it was done before we had a chicken pox vaccine. Finally got it at 16, still have the scars nearly 40-years later. But I got my shingles vax!

    She’s literally this stupid. Some things we see these nuts try to pull off make sense, from an evil point of view. This move is plain stupid, and because we’ve forgotten what measles are people will listen.

    BTW, I’m 54 and just now learning what measles are and how bad it can be. I had no clue, because I’ve never met anyone that had it.

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      i had chickenpox as a kid, i remember the aveeno baths for it, we were set in the same room to “inonculate” the rest of the siblings. as there was no vaccine at the time. Chickenpox is quite severe for adults though. i did get shingles around 20yo though. theres is shingles to potentially turn severe, but its rare. shingles can cause meningitis, and encephalitis, as well as spinal cord damage.

      people who arnt sure about thier chickenpox immunity can ask thier doctors to do antibody titers(it doesnt detect dormant chickenpox in your ganglia though because theres no way to detect it outside of autopsy), your doctor maybe reluctant to administer the test though.

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    i had no sympathy for anti-vax adults during covid, their choice to risk their lives. But children with basic vaccinations? their parents are taking the risk and the ones that didn’t choose are getting the consequences

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      172 days ago

      One side takes the risk, the other side faces the consequences.

      Are we still talking about parents/children? Because that also applies to republican politicians/everybody else

  • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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    252 days ago

    Now, they demonize parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids

    They should have kicked their skulls in before even thinking of having children

    • @[email protected]
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      22 days ago

      Lack of sex ed and no access to family planning services creates a whole bunch of idiots breeding more idiots

  • Flax
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    Why are people debating measles vaccines again? The covid vaccine debate was stupid but I could kinda understand the concern there in comparison to this

    • nantsuu
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      It all goes back to the BS “vaccines cause autism” thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 days ago

      The MMR (measels, mumps, rubella) vaccine is the one Wakefield was against. The OG of the vaccines cause autism movement.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 days ago

      Thanks to safety provided by vaccines, we are here to cancel said vaccines and empower people to kill their children by neglect and die on their own.

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      32 days ago

      RFK JR has OF COURse saying it isnt neccesary to vax against measles, he did only partially backtrack that by only adminstering 2000doses lol. remember RFK JR is the one that resulted in 86 children deaths in samoa.

  • "no" banana
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    162 days ago

    It’s so weird that they don’t want abortions to be legal but they basically want spontaneous death to happen after birth.

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      102 days ago

      Yay, baby gambling!

      But on the serious note, they want poor to be confused, miserable and desperate. They themselves take all the best healthcare, all shots and boosters, but they want for pandemic to happen because it would occupy ordinary people’s minds and also give the government additional abilities to control everyone, while the collapsing market would once again benefit the rich and make poor even poorer. There’s no downside for the likes of MTG, Trump and RFK as long as they are in power.

    • @[email protected]
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      72 days ago

      Quick, somebody make a placebo an “ebola vaccine” and convince Republican politicians that they’re not true Trump supporters unless they have an Ebola Party at the RNC.

  • WatDabney
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    When did we start rewarding politicians for being angry and stupid?

    • grumps
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      Since 1994. When Newt Gingrich first slithered onto the scene to start spreading lies and dumb bullshit. Prior to that it was just lies.

      • @[email protected]
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        gingrich was also the ones that started the thing with the senate to not work with the senate unless they caved into your demands, MITCH just ran with it and amplified it.

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    123 days ago

    This is why Republicans are stupid, a vaccine is a controlled and safe measles exposure with some risk that is 1 in a 100. You are doing the same thing with measles parties but more reckless dangerous levels of infection and putting your kid at risk of death like 1/15 if you send them to the measles parties.

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      222 days ago

      1 in 100 is ridiculously overstating the serious risks, borderlining on misinformation. You are not doing the same thing with measles parties at all

      Here are the risks of the mmr vaccine

      Death: literally 1 in a million. These are typically due to anaphylaxis. In much rarer cases underlying immune disorders are triggered, underlying neurological conditions such as encephalitis are triggered, or very severe thrombocytopenia occurs. The majority of cases of thrombocytopenia induced by the vaccine (which is still astoundingly rare) are not nearly this severe and are correctable

      Anaphylaxis: literally 1 in a million

      Febrile seizures: between 1 in 3000 and 1 in 4000

      Thrombocytopenia, a low platelet count: 1 in 40,000. Again, most cases are not fatal

      Mild swelling of the glands similar to mumps: 1 in 1000

      Mild side effects like rash or fever though? About 5%

      Now to contrast:

      If you catch measles you have about a 1 in 1000 chance of dying. This is in America, the risk is higher in less developed countries and countries where vaccinations rates are lower (and thus pockets of America where vaccination rates are low may see higher death rates). This is because of the potential risk of developing pneumonia and encephalitis

      People who are anti vaccination do not understand medicine at all and do understand the most basic statistics. The fact of the matter is vaccines can and do cause harm. There is no getting around that fact. But the chance of you encountering the harm from vaccines is astronomically lower than the risk of of encountering harm from the diseases they are protecting you from.

      To put it quite simply: if you vaccinate your child with the mmr vaccine they have a 1 in a million chance of dying. If you do not and they catch measles they have a 1 in a thousand chance of dying. If you purposely infect them with measles you should be charged with child abuse.

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        152 days ago

        One other devastating reason to vaccinate, particularly against measles: measles can give your immune system amnesia. All that precious “natural immunity” that these ghouls profess? You can just fucking LOSE it and have to relearn how to fight off previous infections. It’s a goddamned factory reset to day one, but without mommy’s antibodies you got in utero, nor from breast milk. Unless you’re Robin Arryn of the Vale from Game of Thrones.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          1 in 1000 given a working hospital system. Without the vaccine, hospitals would be completely inundated with patients.

          • @[email protected]
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            112 days ago

            To be clear I don’t think you were trying to be misleading or anything and I apologize if I came off as rude. By nature of my work I talk to anti vaccine people a lot and it can be trying

            I mean to ultimately stress the point that somehow we have lost the plot. When vaccines came out people truly understood that the vaccine was a tremendous advantage over the alternative. Primarily because at the time they had seen firsthand the chilling effects of disease ravaging their communities

            It unfortunately appears we will have a reminder of that soon because stupid selfish morons refuse to read a book and as result their “right to liberty” will result in countless deaths. Sorry to grandma, sorry to babies, maga dork doesn’t trust doctors

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        22 days ago

        Anaphylaxis is typically treatable especially at the Dr most people live even in that incredibly rare event.

        There have been no deaths shown to be related to the MMR vaccine in healthy people.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 days ago

      I should start selling pillows. Not comfortable pillows. Just a brand of pillows to scream into when life hands you no other options for releasing your frustration.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 days ago

      There have been no deaths shown to be related to the MMR vaccine in healthy people. Tons of kids will die from measels

  • @[email protected]
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    103 days ago

    In a regular reality someone as willfully ignorant as that slag would have Darwined themselves out of existence