President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday that Ukraine was responsible for Russia’s invasion of the country three years ago, arguing Kyiv could have made a deal to avoid the conflict.

“You should have never started it,” Trump said of Ukraine while criticizing President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who had expressed concern that his country was not included in talks between the U.S. and Russia in Saudi Arabia.

“I think I have the power to end this war, and I think it’s going very well. But today I heard, ‘Oh, well, we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump told reporters at his Mar-a-Lago resort. “You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.”

Trump went on to say: “I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, everything, almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished, and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.”

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  • @[email protected]
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    1734 days ago

    If Ukraine didn’t want to be invaded, it shouldn’t have dressed that way! Stupid sexy Ukraine.

    • [email protected]
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      704 days ago

      Right? It’s such a ridiculous statement. You’d think the president were a serial rapist, or something.

        • totallynotaspy
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          I’m pretty sure you’re joking but, just in case, here’s a list last updated in 2019 from PBS. As they say, where there’s smoke, there’s fire; if there’s this many sexual assaults that have been publicly reported, then there will always be more who won’t come forward.

          At a minimum he’s a Quagmire level sex pest (sex/dopamine addict), but let’s be honest, dude is a serial rapist. I’d argue this is where he falls since it’s obvious he cares only for himself to the point that he raped his own wife (Ivana Trump) and treats women like toys to be used.

        • Nightwatch Admin
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          134 days ago

          Sad times are these, when well-meaning jests have to be accompanied by /s, because reality is more insane than any joke you could ever imagine.

          • totallynotaspy
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            54 days ago

            Agreed :(

            Wish people would get over the whole “Oh that’s just politics/a smear campaign” or “I don’t talk politics” when anyone tries to discuss the US public officials’ actions or provide a different view (politicians, institutions, policy, etc) since it effects our everyday lives. Met too many deniers the past few years about first lady cheeto’s actions.

  • @[email protected]
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    1934 days ago

    yOu CoUlD hAvE mAdE a DeAl

    god damn this guy is a smoothbrain.

    And america voted for him to run their country.

    • @[email protected]
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      284 days ago

      They had no choice! The Dems should have put up a better candidate! Genocide! Gaza! Liberals! Woke! DEI! Anything but make me address the consequences of my action and/or inaction!

    • @[email protected]
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      174 days ago

      I mean, looking at global politics… propaganda campaigns against democratic nations or alliances aren’t only occurring in the US and they’re working all over. You think Brexit wasn’t a psyops campaign funded by Russia? Or how about ultra-right wing conservatives popping up in elections across the world? These are planned attacks against democracy, they’ve just been hard at work sowing the seeds to destabilize the US for decades, and those seeds are finally paying off.

      • @[email protected]
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        84 days ago

        russia funds all of those groups, its not a coincidence they suddenly all appear around the time the us had thier elections.

    • @[email protected]
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      74 days ago

      I didn’t… i would NEVER vote for that prick. We were bad before, but now I don’t blame anyone for hating the US

      • @[email protected]
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        64 days ago

        I hate the US. That does not mean I hate all Americans, but jesus fuck, you guys fucked so many millions of people around the world voting for a literally human piece of shit. In not sure who’s worse, Hitler or Trump, but it looks like Trump might finally win something: being worse than Hitler.

        • Cousin Mose
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          154 days ago

          You know, sometimes I try to read articles outside my echo chamber and at this point conservative == conspiracy in my mind. You’re just playing mental gymnastics the entire time.

      • @[email protected]
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        194 days ago

        Idk how to tell you this, but appeasing foreign invaders has never worked in the past, especially in eastern Europe.

        • @[email protected]
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          -64 days ago

          Nonsense. It’s these sort of blanket statements that undermine a clear understanding of what each side wants. Putin wanted Ukraine to remain neutral and not join NATO, because the head of NATO, the United States was talking about unprovoked nuclear first strikes and all sorts of crazy things. Zelensky himself publicly floated the idea of Ukraine obtaining nukes. If your choice is between going to war and having a country on your border point nukes at you, then you might go to war.

          In fact. The United States claimed Iraq (a country far away from itself) was trying to obtain nukes and invaded it in the 2000s, and that was while the leaders of Iraq were refuting the claim (and the Iraqis were telling the truth).

          • matlag
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            44 days ago

            Right. And all the talks about reforming the USSR are probably just a diversion.

            • @[email protected]
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              -33 days ago

              That’s what the United States and NATO countries claim Putin wants, and which he has refuted. That makes reforming the USSR about as believable as Iraqi nukes.

              If you want to win me over and have me believe you, then my advice would be to go to Iraq and don’t come back until you find those nukes. My advice is that when you go, remember to avoid packing light, because you’re gonna be there a while.

        • @[email protected]
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          -274 days ago

          Zelensky is clearly a weak leader as he can’t even control his former staff. The negotiator goes out, gives an interview saying Johnson gave Zelensky his marching orders, and all you can do is pretend I should be embarrassed? Zelensky was a fool to trust the British, a people known to have cheated and humiliated people across the entire world.

          This idea that the NATO powers that gave Ukraine weapons have no influence is very silly. As we’re seeing right in front of our eyes, Trump expects to collect payment for those weapons by taking Ukrainian resources. Of course they wanted Ukraine to prolong the war, accept more weapons, and rack up more debt. Johnson showed up, told them to keep fighting and likely whatever else Zelensky wanted to hear and now we’re at this outcome. Zelensky is at home seething, egg on his face as Trump and Putin decide the fate of his country. Reality is right in front of you and yet you deny it. If Zelensky had any sort of political or military leverage he’d be at the peace talks too.

          • Flying Squid
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            224 days ago

            That’s a very strange reaction to being shown that the link you provided was a lie.

            • @[email protected]
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              84 days ago

              he sounds like a shill for vlad to me, similar thing that tulsi said on asian right wingers youtube channel.

            • @[email protected]
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              -44 days ago

              It wasn’t a lie. I believe what the negotiator said in his interview. He’s telling the truth and Zelensky is lying.

              • Flying Squid
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                44 days ago

                Zelensky says it isn’t true, Johnson says it isn’t true, but some other random guy says it and you believe it. That’s pretty sad.

  • @[email protected]
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    1184 days ago

    “if you didn’t want to get raped, then why did you dress so provocatively?”

    This is only kind of hyperbole, since Trump was actually convicted of raping a woman…

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      the same script russia uses, trump gets his orders from putin. its also " you’re making me rape you"

  • @[email protected]
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    73 days ago

    It was literally a surprise invasion that half the EU didn’t even believe was gonna happen and Russia denied was happening. How the fuck are you supposed to negotiate a peace to avoid a surprise invasion that Russia vehemently denied was gonna happen?

    What the actual fuck is this bullshit?

    • Amon
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      114 days ago

      He got his tech guys to federate Truth Social with Lemmy

  • @[email protected]
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    664 days ago

    It was all their fault.they existed. They were breathing and worst of all they didn’t want their land stolen. How dare they?

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      Pretty sure he was already a puppet, that was just the rimming of the ring.

      EDIT: Speaking of which, does anyone know if Marina Gross is still actually alive? I get not wanting media attention etc, but she seems like a ghost for someone that translates for world leaders.

      • @[email protected]
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        184 days ago

        The first time a sitting US president and RU president spoke to each other alone with just an interpreter and no official transcript.

  • @[email protected]
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    374 days ago

    He is perfectly and unquestioningly following his owners commands, like any good dog. He just amplifies Putins position on this rape of another country 100%.

  • @[email protected]
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    344 days ago

    I though Russia was claiming they were attacking Nazis in Ukraine and that’s why they went to war or something… I forget

    • @[email protected]
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      84 days ago

      Not a war, a ‘denazification operation’. (I remember a couple of years ago back on The Website when I saw this post about Russia bombing a Holocaust memorial. So yes, denazification or whatever euphemism Putty wants to use indeed.

      • @[email protected]
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        54 days ago

        Russia took the final step into fascism in 2022.
        But its useful to understand that Nazi in Russia, just means someone who opposes Russia, (and Russians can’t see their country as anything other than an imperialist warmonger, spheres of influence and fighting in massive wars is a cornerstone of what Russians think is their national identity thanks to decades of propaganda and abuse)