I don’t usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.
Meta did not immediately respond to Ars’ request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was “fair use.”
When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets “fair use” standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to “fair use”! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.
See, Meta is rich and US laws don’t seem to apply to American oligarchs.
And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats
This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.
Oh wow, I’m very much looking forward to this argument… “We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use… China bad!”
Of course they didn’t seed. Fucking leeches.
They were leeches without the torrenting.
Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences
And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.
p sure he Epsteined himself.
No. Do not spread more conspiracy theories.
He was driven to take his own life. It was tragic and wrong and the truth is important. Don’t just throw some bullshit out there without evidence.
Yeah, it probably wasn’t murder, but considering that the US is quickly becoming a fascist oligarcny just like Russia is, and more and more American whistle blowers seem to be mysteriously dying… I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he was murdered. The oligarchs are evil af and any government that can aggressively fund a baby killing genocide is also evil enough to kill people for petty reasons
That was 12 years ago. 1 year into Obama’s second term. And don’t give me some “we were always a fascist state“ nonsense. You need evidence that he was murdered, even in the current climate. And 2013 was nothing like 2025.
“I wouldn’t be surprised“ is not enough to repeat that conspiracy. Certainly not to claim you are “pretty sure” he was killed by the powers that be. It is irresponsible of you to assert that with any confidence.
JFK, tupac, biggie, Malcolm X, king
To be fair, ‘I wouldn’t be surprised if…’ isn’t a testimony or claiming something happened, it’s voicing a level of disillusionment with something, nothing but opinion.
That’s a lot of Far Side books.
“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.
Another reason to hate Meta, now they’re scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back
Capitalists aren’t in the business of sharing.
Parasite’s entire MO is to never give back.
Downloading and seeding are very legally different.
If they don’t respect copyright I don’t respect it either
We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed… Right?
Right?
Right…?
Surely they would…
Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂
My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!
And they should pay for every book they stole :)
