The tariffs would ensnare cutting-edge smartphone and PC-related chips for Apple, AMD and Nvidia if enacted. But Trump is betting his plan will bring more chip production to the US.

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    • BombOmOm
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      01 month ago

      The US makes chips. Notably Intel and TSMC have US fabs.

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        Intel is currently floundering unable to make a good (reliable) node. TSMC can make the chip, but the very important step of packaging needs to be done in Taiwan still.

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        Lol the chips Intel and TSMC make in the US are three generations old and no where near producing the amount needed to even cover the USs needs.

          • @[email protected]
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            01 month ago

            could be, if he also made education free. since he is currently reversing the global brain drain by deporting immigrants. i don’t see what other next step he could possibly commit to unless he expects re-industrialization to just magically appear out of thin air.

        • BombOmOm
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          01 month ago

          Yeah, seems to be the carrot and stick approach. Biden provided the carrot a few years ago (subsidies for new US plants) and Trump is providing the stick (tariffs for offshore imports).

          • @[email protected]
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            01 month ago

            The biggest issue being that despite having operational fabs here, TSMC still needs to ship their wafers to Taiwan in order to process them into chips.

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    Tariffs only exist to protect the profits of the ruling class.

    Do not be fooled. Tariffs are not good for us.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      Japan used tariffs to increase domestic industries and leap frog into the 20th century. It enabled them to take part in WW II and beyond. That’s why you’ll see giant corporations that control multiple different industries.

      It did work for Japan. The US is in a completely different situation though, and it’ll only hurt.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      Tariffs can help with preparation, and they are a tool like many other policies. These ones, though, are not thoughtfully planned out. These protect no one, not even the mega-corps who need to figure out how to make everything domestically or price themselves out of the market.

      • @[email protected]
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        01 month ago

        Not true. A nation doesn’t need tariffs to help with preparations unless they’re also trying to maintain the dominance of their ruling classes.

        Tariffs mean we have to pay for it instead of them. They can afford it, but they won’t foot the bill unless they are forced to.

        • @[email protected]
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          01 month ago

          I don’t know about God, but I do agree with the outcome.

          There are, if memory serves, quite a few examples of God punishing his chosen people and redistributing their wealth. But then you’ve got that whole new testament thing which really pushes the idea that everyone is the chosen people now.

          It seems to me that the only one trying to destroy the United States is the United States.

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    Ah yes put tariffs on the goods that our allies make, a tried and true solution to the problem of groceries

    Long term, more high tech manufacturing will be the result of more technology availability for cheaper, not higher cost chips from overseas

    It’s my understanding that Taiwan doesn’t manufacture the chip producing machines anyways, those come from ASML

  • TacoButtPlug
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    01 month ago

    Is he intentionally trying to sink us? If so, I guess I don’t hate him as much as I thought?

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    He said he was gonna apply tarrifs to China. This is consistent with the One China policy.

    • Yellow Perilism isn’t just about PRC. Japan suffered from it first hand in the 1980s and 1990s. Anti-Asian racism runs deep in the US and the West.

  • @[email protected]
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    01 month ago

    The world’s largest semiconductor foundry, and one of the primary reasons the U.S. maintains a hold on Taiwan. There are rumours that the US has a plan to blow it up in case of Chinese invasion, that’s how valuable it is. So this quite a reversal of strategy.

    • @[email protected]
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      01 month ago

      As I understand it, TSMC and Taiwan themselves have a plan to blow up the foundries should a China invasion look like it’s going to succeed. They are already rigged with the explosives from what I understand.

      • @[email protected]
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        027 days ago

        I have heard they are rigged with explosives, but that could just be hearsay. I wouldn’t work in a building rigged with explosives. I also don’t understand why TSMC would voluntarily self-destruct in such a situation. I don’t get the incentive.

        • @[email protected]
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          It’s removing “gaining control of TSMC” from the lists of reasons for China to invade, making the whole operation less attractive. Though the more the US tries to deny China access to advanced chips, the less that disincentive matters.