Technically it’s for any printer capable of printing a firearm or the components of a firearm, which is…. every printer. What a bafflingly stupid proposal. If you’re in NY, please call your reps and tell them to oppose this bill.
Awful. Literally banning science, because it can be misused.
We’d better go the full mile. Here’s my list of things to be banned, For Our SafetyTM:
- 3/4" and 1" galvanized steel pipe and endcaps
- Cases of matches
- Acetone
- Stump killer
- Milling machines
- Lathes
- Drill presses
- Hydrogen peroxide
- Salt, Sodium Chloride
- Stainless steel bolts
- Benchtop power supplies
- Sulfur
- Carbon
- Water
- Aluminum foil
I’m sure I can think of others if you give me a minute or two.
Can’t you make a pipe bomb out of PVC?
Not a good one, I’d imagine. The casings real purpose afaik is to turn into shrapnel, I don’t think plastic would be as effective. Then again, I believe it’s common to mix screws or similar in with the explosive for more shrapnel, so maybe. Just speculating though
Iron rust. Can be used with the aluminum you included to produce thermite.
Oh my god it’s back? I was hoping we’d seen the last of it back in 2023.
Tell us your corporate paymasters are afraid without saying they’re afraid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpc_oPToQQ
This video shows the stupidity of new york
“Printed guns” by " tipsy duck"
Any engineer worth their salt can do this without a 3d printer. Idiots.
Next up, you’re going to have to register your drill press, lathe, etc.
This is braindead, are they gonna require background checks for the hardware store next?
Don’t forget sporting goods and kitchen supplies. Heck, you can get a bunch of decent knives in IKEA, better put furniture outlets on a watchlist.
You literally need ID to purchase silverware in the UK. Yes, they will absolutely do this.
Or worse, buying guns everywhere?
Anything to avoid having to actually address the systemic poverty and bigotry ingrained in the system that leads to violence…
From what I understand the “problem” as it’s being framed in terms of ghost guns and inner city crime or whatever the buzzword is this year is not hobbyists running off a lower or frame for themselves. None of those guys in the hood and their switches are buying Bambus or building Vorons and suddenly turning into 3D printing gurus – Someone, or several someones more likely, are deliberately mass manufacturing these things for sale to the criminals which is already thoroughly illegal. Find the gun runners and stomp on them. I thought you guys were supposed to have this big scary police force and surveillance apparatus?
California is cracking down hard on ghost guns right now… Its super important in LA. Its gotta be the single most biggest issue they are dealing with right at the very moment.
Ah. So I suppose that means California has successfully solved the skyrocketing cost of living and inflation, drought, rampant homelessness, and uncontrollable wildfires?
What do you mean fire? It’s ghost guns running the show! Lol…not lol. More like WTF?
It’s mostly a bunch of little hood gunsmiths, making them and selling them to customers. It’s literally the gun equivalent of an attic full of weed plants.
I’m a hobbyist 3D printer and I can barely get my minis to print half decently, never mind a functional firearm
new york will do anything but fix actual problems lmao
It fixed congestion.
We’ll see if that sticks, or if annoying rich car people get the reforms repealed. Hochul certainly seems pliable.
Rich car people will take it as the cost of doing business and have the roads to themselves like they wanted.
Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.
Because you can make guns with metal.
It just buy a gun third party or at a gun show in a state without background check requirements.
This isn’t rocket science.
Background checks are a Federal requirement and any transfer requires it go through an FFL for just that reason There is no Gun Show Loophole
The loophole is largely in the matter of enforcement. It is comically easy to evade these regulation or outright ignore them.
Ah yes, but then they’ll just make it illegal to buy and own 2nd hand stuff.
Very easy to hit your police quotas in a city where everyone is constantly committing crimes through basic commerce.
What a foolish bill.
Gonna require background checks to get plumbing supplies or to go to the hardware store? Cause I can make a gun a hell of a lot easier and quicker with that shit, than I can with a 3d fuckin printer.
IIRC hardware store employees do pay attention to purchases that look like that and have phone numbers to call for it
Pfft.
I used to run a hardware store. We saw people assembling parts to build zip guns, potato cannons, pipe bombs, bongs, and other similarly related naughty projects all the time. You want to know what I did about it? I told them to let me know how it turned out.
Some boob from the ATF actually came by and tried to grill me real hard about ammonium nitrate at one point shortly after 9/11, and I had to tell him the same thing over and over again phrased many different ways until he finally got it, which was that we don’t sell any fertilizer other than prepackaged blended consumer products, i.e. we did not sell any pure nitrates to anyone because we could not, because we didn’t bother to carry them. End of discussion.
There was still plenty of crap available on my shelves to make a quite competent bomb if you knew what you were doing. But I didn’t go into detail and I sure as shit wasn’t going to go around teaching anyone.
You think those employees are paid enough to care?
Nope! But i bet management cares enough about it (or at least not being “that store that sold a shooter gun parts”) to make it painful if they dont.
You can buy from multiple stores and mix in a bunch of other stuff to make it hard for someone to figure out what you’re building.
Or just go to self checkout
The Home Depot near my house recently went exclusively self checkout. I hate it, makes me consider driving an extra 15 min to go to Menard’s or Lowes.
It’s those rock tumbler crazies of the world.
Oi. You got a permit to tumble that aluminum foil?
Lol that describes my childhood
Did you use chlorates, saltpeter, or potassium permanganate?
Someone go ahead and trademark the term “ghost printer.”
I built my own, so I guess stepper motors and heating elements should also be under the law.
Some actual gun control laws would be better, not to mention universal health care. What’s next on the list? Kitchen knives? Pans, pots? ;)
I grew up in NY. The gun control laws were draconian 45 years ago. I can’t imagine they have become more lax since I departed the state 30 years ago.
Doesn’t really matter if you can buy a gun in another state.
Have you ever tried? You can’t. FFL dealers cannot sell to residents of another state. If you want to buy out of state, they have to ship the firearm to an FFL dealer in your state to perform the sale. They can’t give it to you or ship it to you.
If they are licensed in your state and another state, and you purchase the gun in the other state, they have to follow the rules of your state.
Thos is Canada’s and Mexico’s problem
What I mean is a bordering US state, not another country. I don’t think Canada has the same problem with guns as you guys do.
How much harder would it be than getting an actual gun?
my granny got one in a Walmart parking lot so it can’t be that hard.
Still don’t know how that even happens.Well, maybe that’s your (US&A) problem, not 3d printers ;)
Road trip to Georgia and back, basically.
Makes total sense
Just FYI, you can’t buy a firearm at a dealer outside of your home state without having it shipped to an FFL holder in your home state. E.g., I can’t drive to Family Firearms in Alabama from Georgia–where i live–to buy a gun. I have to order from them, and then have it shipped to an FFL near me, and then fill out the paperwork in my own state. In states that allow private, p2p sales (which is most of them), you could buy a firearm with cash from an individual, and they’d never do a background check or fill out a 4473.
Thank you for the information. My (incorrect) assumption was the oft-paraded “gun show” loophole.
I think consistent effort is required to erase any misconception about the availability of firearms.
WTF?
What’s next a background check for breathing? Because, you know breathing is a clear and obvious pre-cursor to criming of all kinds.
Checks out, seeing as breathing is a precursor in blowguns.
