Austria: Outrage on election eve amid funeral with Nazi song – DW – 09/29/2024
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Three far-right politicians were reportedly at the funeral where a song glorified by Germany's Nazi-era SS was sung on election eve. The Austrian Jewish Students’ Union has reported the politicians involved.

Three far-right politicians were reportedly at the funeral where a song glorified by Germany’s Nazi-era SS was sung on election eve. The Austrian Jewish Students’ Union has reported the politicians involved.

  • @[email protected]English
    7•6 days ago

    I’m always torn on things like this. Yes, the was probably a bunch of Nazi edge-lords choosing an song with imflametory connections. They are signalling to others what and who they are.

    However, getting enflamed about it just broadcasts the existence of such groups. The press are amplifying the signal. It’s free marketing.

    The song itself is militaristic and nationalistic, but speaks of the Kiaser and the German empire. i.e. what was before WW1. It’s imperialist, as you might expect from something written in 1814. I can see why the Nazis adopted it, but it’s a boring dirge that is from a bygone era. There’s little to get upset about in the song itself. It’s all about the association.

    The rise of groups like this is something to be worried about, and Austria does seem to be a focal point. I just think hyping up scandals is fueling the fire.

    • @[email protected]English
      39•6 days ago

      I’m not torn. In much of Europe, especially Germany, Austria, and Poland, displaying Nazi symbols is illegal. These Nazi edgelords know they are flaunting walking on the edge of those laws. If we don’t fight back, the far right will push us further right. AfD, MAGA, the French National Party are all doing this and succeeding.

      Fuck Nazis and their sympathizers, publicly call them out, shame and admonish them.

      • @[email protected]English
        -4•6 days ago

        If they achieve their goals skirting the law, you don’t get to prosecute them. Make them cross the line. Then they go to jail.

        • @[email protected]English
          20•6 days ago

          Nah, that’s the paradox of tolerance.

          Remember: it’s always a good day to punch a Nazi.

          • @[email protected]English
            7•6 days ago

            I think it was Gandhi who said “the best time to punch a nazi is 90 years ago. The second best time is today.”

            • @[email protected]English
              10•6 days ago

              No, it’s refusing to extend tolerance to people who subscribe to a fundamentally and irredeemably intolerant ideology.

    • Flying SquidMEnglish
      15•6 days ago

      Ignoring bullies has never and will never make them go away.

    • @[email protected]English
      3•6 days ago

      Also important

      The song was adopted and glorified by the Nazi Schutzstaffel (SS) as a “song of loyalty.” The Nazi resistance sang the song too.

      1. The SS only used an adopted version.

      2. It was sang by the resistance.

      If we were to condemn all songs that were sang by Nazis we’d have to condemn pretty much all old German songs.

      • Flying SquidMEnglish
        3•6 days ago

        Can we condemn Lili Marelene even though it predates the Nazis? Because “it was adopted by the Nazis” would be a terrific excuse for never having to hear that awful song again.