• @[email protected]
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    06 months ago

    I know linux is likely the better option here, but for me I have two word…

    Winaero Tweaker

  • Eugenia
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    I think that this betrays their plans: Windows will go “free with ads”, with an ad-free version that is subscription only. That doesn’t hurt their bottomline since the governments and companies of the western world will still go subscription in order to get support. The ones who don’t have enough money for that (individuals, small countries/companies, small municipalities), they will go “free with ads”. I mean, practically, Windows is free even right now. They have oem serial numbers that activate the OS for free, legally, to be reused. So why not make it profitable, it’s their thinking. Also, on newer builds of Win11 you can’t avoid logging in without an msn account.

    • @[email protected]
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      That is the Trap. Pre-installed Windows is not free, you pay for it in the price of the PC, the same PC without OS is almost ~€100 cheaper. A lot of vendors offer now PC only with FreeDOS, where you can select to install Linux, paying only the CD or USB or install Windows, paying it’s license (€100-120).

  • @[email protected]
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    06 months ago

    So Microsoft is one of the most valuable companies in the entire world. They have a stranglehold on corporate America, power a huge the cloud infrastructure, hold one of the largest sources of telemetry/user data, and are the defacto standard of PC environments worldwide.

    Why in the fuck do they need to pivot to ads? I’m genuinely curious. Even if they lost 50% of their entire business they would still be one of the most profitable companies in the world.

    • @[email protected]
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      Isn’t it obvious? Start Menu is being used by every windows user but is not generating any revenue Serving ads will enable them to better support the platform and provide more advanced features. Ad supported version is better than making it a subscription like some third party apps have done. Start8 I think, basic copy of Microsoft’s Start Menu but paid.

    • FoolishOwl
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      @SuperSynthia @dvdnet62 Because for capitalism, profit is not the end, only a means to the end. The end is to accumulate sufficient capital to absorb all competitors and achieve total control of markets.

      • @[email protected]
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        Yea but like, their competitors, when it comes to operating systems are Apple, which isn’t anywhere near small enough to be obtainable by anyone and Linux and Linux-Derivatives, which are also unobtainable due to their open source nature.

        • FoolishOwl
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          @accideath The point isn’t whether Microsoft will reach that end. The point is that like all capitalist enterprises it will forever strive to do so.

              • @[email protected]
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                Not every larger company is automatically evil, just because they exist within a capitalist market. A lot of them are, sure. At least to some extent. But there still are privately owned enterprises that do have a conscience.

                Also, calling them “capitalist” enterprises seems redundant.

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                  @accideath I’m calling them capitalist enterprises to emphasize that they are capitalist enterprises. They accumulate capital. That is what they are and defines what they do.

                  A capitalist enterprise does not decide it has enough and can retire and take up gardening. It is not a person. It does not have a conscience.

    • @[email protected]
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      Because they were “leaving money on the table” instead of getting it for their shareholders.

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        the shareholders don’t get that. the top managers, CEOs etc. get it. some of them may be shareholders as well, but that’s not how they fill their pockets.

    • Gristle
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      06 months ago

      I think it’s the same reason games offer a cash shop for things you can get in-game. Sure they’re making billions but why not billions plus ad revenue? I don’t agree with the practice but the answer always comes back to money.

    • @[email protected]
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      Because when you have shareholders, there’s no such thing as “we’re profitable enough”. Shareholders always demand more. Ads means more profit, at least in the short term. Next quarter profits are all that matter to public companies.

      It’s obscene, but it’s the way it is.

      • Amju Wolf
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        It’s not just that they demand more, they demand more/faster growth all the time. It doesn’t matter that the economy has slowed down to borderline recession, it doesn’t matter that they pretty much captured all the market they can, they still need to make more and more money every quarter otherwise they’re considered a failure even if they are one of the biggest companies in the world.

  • Diplomjodler
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    06 months ago

    I have a feeling that this year is going to be the year of the Linux desktop.

    • @[email protected]
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      If there is a recommendation that satisfies:

      • A nice looking UI with good fonts, and a clean interface.
      • The ability to run random Windows applications with minimal fuss.

      All without needing to use the terminal, then that will likely win the battle.

      • @[email protected]
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        06 months ago

        Just get over it and learn

        I also have to use terminal in Windows, and up until recently it was an awful useless terminal too

          • Zuberi 👀
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            06 months ago

            Not really my place to prove it. Perhaps try something that isn’t Windows and you’ll see how much it truly does suck ass.

            • @[email protected]
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              My daily drivers are MacOS and Fedora (with Windows on my Surface Book), but I’m a software engineer, not the average person.

              I would love for Linux on the desktop to be viable for the average person, but there isn’t really a built-in option that can beat Windows at what it’s good at, and that’s backwards compatibility, and a clean interface that users know. The attitude of “well, Linux is just better” hasn’t worked for decades, and it never will until there is a distro that prioritises that (hard) switch.

      • @[email protected]
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        06 months ago

        Honestly Wine and Bottles are both pretty great at running windows programs these days, I wouldn’t worry to much about that so long as you check and make sure the critical software you need works.

      • @[email protected]
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        A nice looking UI with good fonts, and a clean interface.

        Pretty much anything beats Windows in that regard.

        The ability to run random Windows applications with minimal fuss.

        I mean if you REALLY can’t find a FOSS alternative, Bottles has been extremely successful and easy for me…

        All without needing to use the terminal

        This is the biggest hangup for me. Even if there is a GUI, most instructions will send you into the terminal nonetheless.

        • @[email protected]
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          Pretty much anything beats Windows in that regard

          Fonts have looked like shit on Linux for years, if not decades. The poor UI and lack of polish has been a big problem in design communities for a long time, and to many it’s one of the reasons why Linux is less favourable to Mac and Windows.

          This is the biggest hangup for me. Even if there is a GUI, most instructions will send you into the terminal nonetheless.

          For all the deserved shit that Windows gets, it “just works” without ever needing to touch config or a terminal. Until a Linux distro and window management system can get this part right, it’s silly to call it a desktop replacement for the average person because it’s not trying to be.

          • @[email protected]
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            The poor UI and lack of polish has been a big problem in design communities for a long time

            I dunno what to tell you except that it’s not a problem now.

            For all the deserved shit that Windows gets, it “just works” without ever needing to touch config or a terminal.

            Most people don’t need to use anything other than a browser, which works fine.

            • @[email protected]
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              06 months ago

              You think the average joe does browse this environment?
              My guy, we are on lemmy. This ain’t reddit.

              • @[email protected]
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                My point exactly. I’ve watched people break down over the start menu changing, or being unable to do anything after switching to a Mac. If you think the average person will go through this shit you’re mistaken…but I’d expect nothing less from Lemmy. It’s a bit like Slashdot from 20 years ago…

                • @[email protected]
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                  I had to explain to users where to find the windows key or how to start a search in the start menu.
                  Many can’t comprehend typing if there is not a textbox…

        • @[email protected]
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          I don’t know if Microsoft’s choices to drive windows into the ground are going to have an immediate impact on Linux adoption (though you certainly see some governments trialing Linux right now because of it) but in the medium term they basically demand that Linux increase in users by a massive amount.

          I know business not gaming is where Microsoft sees the value of Windows (and there is wayyyyyy more money in selling software for business) but I think a strategic defeat is happening right now with the steam deck taking off and more broadly the association in computer nerd’s minds that windows is the operating system to stick with is essentially all but evaporated from the series of bogglingly condescending decisions Microsoft has made about the future development of windows.

          They lost, this period will gone down as a historic unforced error of a tech company undermining the foundation of their profits to make a bit more profits in the near term. They could have kept linux gaming mostly a pipe dream indefinitely if they just made sure windows wasn’t ever tooooo shitty of an experience for gaming, but now the dam is broken and though it might not be a flood all it once, the people leaving windows are never coming back and the movement of users away from windows will erode the levee behind the dam, compromising Microsoft’s basic ability to hold on to users, for gaming or business.

          It starts with a trickle, but before we know it in a blink of an eye that trickle is going to cut a channel and slips its fingers back under the dam and destabilize the entire thing, and then it will be a massive rush of users leaving that Microsoft can’t control at all because they ignored the issue until the process was way past a point of no return.

  • @[email protected]
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    06 months ago

    Thank you microsoft for doing bad changes to the windows operating system im sure linux users will enjoy this

  • @[email protected]
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    I’ve used Linux on every PC except my gaming PC for years. This year I made the final leap because of decisions like this from Microsoft.

    Very few games have failed to work, the ones that have are all from Epic and they fail because of their shitty anticheat software. The only other things I feel the lack of are paint.net and the Affinity apps.

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      EAC is now largely compatible with Linux, but devs have to enable support per game.

      I recommend browsing protondb to see how (if) people have made games with anticheat work, you might need to change proton versions, add launch options etc.

      • @[email protected]
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        I have Pinta, it’s ok but lacks a lot of the plugins I used and hasn’t been too stable. The graphics editing thing is something that will,just take time for me to rework my workflows. Gimp is great, I’m just not used to it.

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      06 months ago

      How many PCs do you have, lol. And Gimp and Inkscape are pretty good art programs.

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        5 in use. Main Gaming PC, Laptop, Game server pc, media server PC, and another for testing things out. Whenever a family member upgrades I get the old one so most of these are pretty old.

        I have gimp and other graphics tools, I also have a LOT of hours of use in the ones I mentioned so there are things I know how to do quickly in those programs but not in their counterparts.

  • @[email protected]
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    KDE Plasma 6, and their distro KDE Neon, are both really good.

    There are many very friendly Linux communities on Lemmy who can help you get set up.

    • @[email protected]
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      I had the same issue holding me back from giving up Windows, until I discovered the Python keyboard module.

      How to bind key presses to it varies, but here’s a recipe for Ubuntu, as an example:

      https://askubuntu.com/questions/525482/how-can-i-assign-a-keyboard-shortcut-for-the-script-that-i-have-created#525495

      Overall, it’s not quite as elegant, as AutoHotKey, but it’s ultimately a more powerful, since there’s so much else I can also do from the same Python script.

      Edit: Most notably, I don’t recall AutoHotKey having any nice way to tell which apps are open, and Python can quickly call out to ps. It’s been on my to-do list to leverage this to let me map keybindings according to what is open (i.e. a favorite game, or a move player.)

    • @[email protected]
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      Windows 11 looks like a crappy knockoff of KDE with all the good bits removed and replaced with spyware and adware.

      • JackGreenEarth
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        It looks much better actually, with the fancy blur and transparency effects. Not to say it works better than Linux, and I’m sure it must be possible to customise KDE to look better.

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah there are plenty of kwin effect you can install that would make it as pretty as windows 11 if that’s important to you. Just like there are plenty of themes you can install if you want a macOS experience instead

    • Dymonika
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      @tsonfeir But Linux does not have AutoHotkey. This is the biggest deal-breaker for me by far. AutoKey seems be the closest thing, but it’s such a massive pain to even try to use by comparison.

        • Dymonika
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          Interesting, thanks. I think ultimately, seeing this port’s adherence to AHK v1 syntax, I’d just have to bite the bullet and learn Python or something, though…

          Never mind, I’ve since stumbled across xdotool!

      • @[email protected]
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        I doesn’t have auto hotkey because for the most part, you can control Linux from the command-line without someone having to invent a new scripting language from scratch to control it.

        I heavily recommend you familiarize yourself with bash and the system commands you’ll need to send key presses, move windows, spawn and kill programs, etc.

        • Dymonika
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          Hmm, thanks. Can it simulate mouse-clicks?

          Apparently, xdotool can! I guess the next thing would be generating GUIs. I think the final issue is that this would cause quite the fragmentation given how I use the same scripts on my Windows-only work laptop… but I’ll think about this more…